, big, big historic deal and what he said, actually. despite good faith reports to find an effort-- and efforts to find common ground, the white house will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes and i believe the best approach may be to focus on producing a smaller measure based on the cuts identified in the biden negotiations that still meets our call for spending reforms and cuts greater than the amount of any debt limit increase. >> dave: now shall the leadership in the house and senate are set to meet on capitol hill today and you see the names and faces there, joe biden, the speaker, harry reid, the less goes on and on and eric cantor and nancy pelosi, the big guns will be there, and meet tonight and try to hash out a deal and the president says he is not giving up on the huge deal and sounds like john boehner is not willing to go along with the taxes on the americans in the recession or current circumstances. here is it a spin from the white house, a dan pfeiffer, the communications director. the president